over 900 mpg on Coleman camping fuel, or white gas
(see 918 mpg below)
John Weston stands next to his 1992 Geo Storm GSI, which is equipped with his invention dubbed the Air Vapor Flow System. He claims the car can run 14 miles on 4 ounces of fuel, which means it runs with extreme fuel efficiency at 460+ miles per gallon.
The Geo Storm was a sport compact car manufactured by Isuzu and sold in the United States by General Motors from 1990 through 1993 as part of GM’s Geo line of inexpensive automobiles. The same vehicles, with minor variations, were sold in Canada in the 1992 & 1993 model years only. The Storm was intended to be a budget car with the look and feel of a sports car. The GSi version from these years … included a larger 1.8 L 140 hp engine. Autoweek’s 1990 review of the storm was titled “Slick, Quick And Inexpensive”.
John Weston: “Since I changed the fuel system unit, it’s drastically different. I disconnected the fuel line from the injector so no liquid goes to the engine,” said Weston. Weston showed local TV station NBC-2 a version of his air vapor flow system where instead of liquid fuel, only vapors go to the engine. “They used to say, ‘Hey I’m running on empty. I’m running on fumes.’ Well, this is actually running on fumes,” he said. Weston says the system burns cleaner and also made a bold claim about fuel efficiency from a one-time test. “It came up to 463 miles a gallon if we had driven in the same manner – a gallon,” said Weston. “I drove from here to Fort Myers, and I’m up there keeping up with traffic running 80 mph. ” Now, the backyard mechanic is looking for investors so he can eventually take his invention public. In the meantime, he says you might see his car on the highway.”
He also put his vaporizer on a generator, a riding lawnmower, and his motorcycle. (see photos below)
John Weston and his 400 mpg Geo Storm with his AVFS
By Ovidiu on July 17th, 2008
The NBC reporters were even taken on a test drive, where the engine stumbled a little bit and John said he put too much vapor on the pipe, so when he lowered the vapors, everything got back to normal.
“I learned that when using the AVFS [Air & Vapor Flow System] on my Geo Storm by using the standard 87 octane gasoline, then 89 octane, then used Coleman fuel(for lanterns), then charcoal lighter fluid and even rubbing alcohol. On each of the different fuels there was a different setting of the “air/vapor” mixture for the engine to run smoothly. Not only at idle, but on acceleration as well. I did NOT change timing or bypass any of the original sensors that are factory installed on our vehicles now-a-days.” – John Weston
“Based on talks with actual engineers that work at Ford and GM, these two companies have actively discouraged any improvements in fuel efficiencies. Engineers would be threatened if they were caught tinkering with the computer systems or searching for ways to make the car engines run more efficiently.” It is common knowledge among amateur car fanatics that the car computer systems are programmed to deliver 15% less fuel efficiency than is possible by enriching the gas mixture beyond what is actually needed.
orgoneproducts.org/blog/2008/07/06/why-general-motors-is-going-bankrupt-40-mpg-mini-car-unveiled/
posted by kbcjedi on July 6, 2008 at 11:42 am
Under the hood of John’s extremely fuel efficient car [understatement!]
Notice the white container with about a half inch of gasoline in the bottom and an extra pipe with a valve to allow him to adjust the amount of extra air (to control the air/vapor mixture).
It can also be seen the the air filter was in the area now occupied by his vapor system. Running without an air filter may be o.k. for a while – certainly long enough to do a few test drives and measure the rate of fuel consumption, but in the long run, an air filter will be needed. (see our “Run Your Car On Vapors” page)
Front page news:
October 9, 2007
If John Weston of Port Charlotte can get investors to take his gas-saving invention to the global automotive market, it just might solve the problems of smog, global warming and the high cost of foreign oil. It also might prove that human potential is not limited by education or socioeconomic status.
Weston, 48, who dropped out of high school as a 10th-grader but later achieved a GED, claims to have invented a device that can turn virtually any car into a gas-miser that can run as far as 500 miles on a single gallon.
Called the Air Vapor Flow System, or AVFS, the device functions by vaporizing gasoline before it gets inducted into the engine. That saves fuel and reduces pollution because it allows the engine to burn more of the fuel that gets sucked into the combustion chamber, he contends. The device works on small, industrial engines or larger automobile engines regardless of whether they have carburetors or fuel injection systems, according to Weston.
Weston has been working to bring a prototype of the invention into more advanced development since the late 1990s. After encountering some financial difficulties in recent months, Weston is now renewing efforts to find investors.
. . .
“My setback has always been financial,” Weston said. “That’s why I’m totally open to sponsors, investors or purchasers.” [see Reg Tech Inc. below]
a small, plastic tank
The device consists of a small, plastic tank that gets mounted under the hood of a car. Some hoses from the engine’s air intake housing are run to the top of the tank so that the engine draws in vapors from above the level of the liquid gasoline.
In an impromptu demonstration conducted for this reporter last week, Weston installed one of the devices into his battered 1992 Geo Storm. Weston’s car ran well on the vapors from the device when the level of the liquid in the tank was within a certain margin. The engine ran either too rich or too lean when the level was above or below that margin. The car traveled 14.8 miles on about 4 ounces of gasoline during the test. If accurate, that would amount to about 473 miles per gallon.
Weston’s neighbor, retired construction contractor William “Pops” Gavel, said he witnessed an even more dramatic experiment conducted by Weston. Gavel said he rode as passenger in Weston’s car for 28.7 miles — from Weston’s house to a location in Englewood — on just 4 ounces of Coleman camping fuel, or white gas. If accurate, that rate would be equivalent to 918 miles per gallon. Gavel said he watched Weston pour the 4 ounces into the tank and checked the mileage on the odometer himself.
“I couldn’t believe it,” said Gavel. “I said, ‘Wire me up!’ I’ve got a Ford V-8 whacking down a gallon every 17 miles and I thought, gee, I could drive all day with that kind of mileage.”
still, very crude, manual, operation
To operate the engine, once the fuel level dropped below its optimal margin, Weston briefly triggered a home-made switch 15 times. That pumped in additional fuel from his car’s regular fuel tank. The switch was made from a lamp cord. It was triggered by pushing the two prongs of the plug together for a split second. After the test, Weston estimated the amount of gasoline consumed by measuring the amount of gasoline that was added from his car’s regular fuel tank. To do that, he again triggered the homemade switch 15 times, this time pumping fuel into a measuring cup. The fuel measured 4 ounces.
“Right now, it’s looking like a Mickey-Mouse backyard setup, but regardless of the way it looks, it functions,” he said.
John Weston and his generator with his AVFS
Also yet to be perfected are ways to maintain the level of liquid fuel in the vapor tank, and a way to adjust the mix of air and vapor while driving.
Weston recently tested one of his AVFS tanks on a gasoline-powered utility generator. Without the device, the generator ran for 3.5 hours. With the device, it ran for 14 hours on the same amount of fuel, he said. [a 400% improvement]
School of hard knocks
Hailing from Connersville, Ind., Weston attended 23 schools in 10 grades before dropping out. He explained his father, a construction worker, moved the family often, in both Indiana and Florida. “I could not afford to take vehicles in to get repaired,” he recalled. “I could afford only to buy a Chilton’s manual and repair them myself.”
After working as a welder on oil rigs off Louisiana, he returned to Indiana to care for his ailing mother.
The breakthrough came after Weston, who routinely smokes cigarettes while working on his engines, needed to peer into the gas tank of a lawn mower engine. It was dark in the tank.
“I didn’t have a flashlight at the time, so I used a lighter,” he recalled.
Suddenly, a blast of flame blew out of the tank. Weston immediately realized the potential.
“I said, ‘Wow, let me try this,'” he said.
Weston grabbed a piece of tailpipe and stuck one into a carburetor and the other into a five-gallon gas can. The engine ran for a few moments on the vapors from the can, he said.
In 1996, a school teacher in his hometown invested $12,000 to help Weston fashion a working prototype. The teacher, Edward Slaybaugh of Connserville, Ind., said he considered the invention “the greatest boon this century.” “I hope some good comes of it,” Slaybaugh said Friday.
Reg Tech Inc.
In 1997, Weston sold the rights to his invention to Reg Tech Inc. and its subsidiary, Regi U.S., of British Columbia, Canada.
Weston’s deal called for the two Canadian firms to pay him $100,000 cash, $400,000 in stock, plus royalties. If the companies never turned the device into a commercial product, the company would still have to pay Weston $24,000 per year for 21 years under the contract.
The company had the AVFS tested on a small engine by the firm Adiabatics Inc. in Columbus, Ind. The results showed it reduced hydrocarbons 71 percent and carbon monoxide 25 percent. The rate of fuel consumption was reduced by 15 percent to 30 percent. But the device increased emissions of carbon dioxide 12 percent and nitrogen oxides 296 percent. Those are greenhouse and smog pollutants.
Weston said those emissions increased because Reg Tech’s engineer failed to properly adjust the vapor/air mixture. “Not all engineers are mechanics,” Weston said.
In 2002, Reg Tech relinquished the rights to the invention back to him.
John Robertson, Reg Tech president, said in a phone interview last month the company’s patent attorney had advised the firm that Weston’s invention was “unpatentable” because it was “not unique.” Apparently, a similar system may have been used in race cars in years past, Robertson said.
The company dropped the invention because it would have been unwise to invest in it without the protection of a patent, Robertson said.
John’s riding lawnmower running very very efficiently on vapor – notice, again, that the 1 small bottle produces too much vapor and he has to dilute it by joining a second pipe of air into the mixture
(white with a red valve). See a smaller bottle of fumes powering his – very fuel efficient – motorcycle, below.
the industry expresses its standard disapproval [to keep us from trying it for ourselves and discovering the truth.]
“The automotive industry has made strides in the past 10 years to make cars that produce less of such smog gases as hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide and nitrogen oxides, said Jim Kliesch, senior analyst for clean vehicles at the Union of Concerned Scientists. [as long as it does not enhance gas mileage]
If a vaporization device such as Weston’s improved mileage to the levels that Weston claims, that would reduce gases contributing to global warming, said Kliesch. [an open recognition that Reg Tech’s testing through Adiabatics must have been flawed when claiming an increase in carbon dioxide and nitrogen]
“It sounds intriguing,” added John Cabaniss, director of environment and energy issues for the Association of International Automobile Manufacturers.
John Weston’s motorcycle outfitted with his very fuel efficient AVFS vapor system
Gas-saving invention sparks memories
GREG MARTIN, Charlotte Sun staff writer; Posted October 18, 2007
NORTH PORT – A story published last week about a 48-year-old Port Charlotte man’s invention that he claims allows cars to get as much as 400 miles per gallon garnered attention from Naples to Delray Beach and beyond.
It didn’t seem all that astonishing to 78-year-old North Port retiree Peter Simmons. In fact, it brought back fond memories. After reading the story, Simmons, a retired electronic instrumentation engineer, contacted the Sun to reminisce about the early days in his distinguished career, in which he worked to reinvent a vapor carburetor similar to the Port Charlotte man’s device.
“I’m quite sure it got 120 to 150 miles per gallon,” Simmons recalled. “Those numbers I remember. They’re cast in concrete in my brain, because every time we got up to 145 mpg or better, we’d say, ‘Gee whiz!'” Simmons is one of several alternative automotive energy buffs who contacted the Sun from across Florida in response to the article published Oct. 10 in the Daily News.
The article was about John Weston, who invented the Air Vapor Flow System. The invention consists of a tank mounted under the hood of a car that vaporizes gasoline by agitation. The car runs on fumes drawn from above the level of liquid gasoline in the tank.
A “super-charged” army?
Simmons, who was born in New Zealand and raised in England, said he suspects Big Oil has kept such innovations secret to protect profits. “It is my opinion that all this stuff has been kept quiet and unknown by the poor unsuspecting public,” he said. “They’ve all been taken for the biggest ride in history. We could have been getting 100 miles per gallon.” He has held that suspicion since the early 1950s, when he worked to develop a vapor carburetor with an engineering colleague he identified as Roy Lewelling.
…
The two men obtained crude plans for a vapor carburetor from an advertisement in one of the amateur engineering magazines that were popular in England at the time. “The advertisements sounded like a stupid dream and a con, with promises of a complete description of a carburetor that would get fantastic mileage,” Simmons recalled.
But Simmons said he was already a believer because he’d heard a legend that the British Army, under Maj. Gen. Bernard Montgomery, had used vapor carburetors in its tanks and artillery trucks to chase Germany’s Erwin Rommel from Egypt to Tunisia during World War II. The route began with what Montgomery had dubbed “Operation Supercharge” in November 1942. “Montgomery was able to get all the way to Tunis, I think, on one refueling,” said Simmons, who served in the British Army’s engineering division after the war. …
Old-time tinkering
Simmons said he and Lewelling began tinkering with the goal of creating what they dubbed the “Pogue type 2” carburetor. It was based on the concept of the Pogue carburetor, invented by Canadian Charles Nelson Pogue in 1927. It used a radiator-like device to heat the gasoline. An article about the Pogue carburetor in the May 1936 edition of the Canadian Automotive Trade magazine carried the headline: “Prominent automotive men convinced over 200 mpg possible.”
“Really, I was the guy who handed the spanners (wrenches) to Lewelling, and offered suggestions,” Simmons quipped. Simmons said they carefully measured the mileage they achieved and he’s convinced it reached as high as 150 mpg.
The results were tempered by two caveats: it ran only on “white gasoline,” a pure form of gasoline which was not readily available except to the military, and the mileage was based on imperial gallons, which are one-sixth bigger than U.S. gallons.
After several years of development, the project was dropped in 1953. Simmons said both he and his colleague were courting their future wives at the time and chose to devote more time to their regular careers.
Simmons said he wishes Weston luck with his vapor carburetor. “I hope he succeeds, and inspires the oil industry,” he said.
Weston said he was pleased to hear about Simmons’ story. It lends credence to his own venture, he said.
“Since there was a way to get that many miles per gallon on those old cars back then, why is it so hard to believe we can’t make it work now,” he asked.
Argosy Magazine had a five-page article about Tom Ogle and the media witnessed test of the “Oglemobile”. On that test run, Tom Ogle achieved more than 100 MPG in a 4,600 pound 1970 Ford Galaxie.
Tom Ogle was granted patent # 4,177,779 on Dec. 11th, 1979
“It all started with a lawn mower”
Charles Nelson Pogue
“In 1933 Charles Nelson Pogue made headlines when he drove a 1932 Ford V8, 200 miles on a gallon of gas during a demonstration conducted by The Ford Motor Company in Winnipeg, Manitoba using his super-carb system.” The Pogue Carb went into production and was sold openly. [317 were sold?] In the opening months of 1936, stock exchange offices and brokers were swamped with orders to dump all oil stock immediately. His invention caused such shock waves through the stock market, that the US and Canadian governments both stepped in and [successfully] applied pressure to stifle him.
Pogue went overnight from impoverished inventor to the manager of a successful factory making oil filters for the motor industry.
[ see Don Garlits with Pogue carb. on Super Carburetors Hist. page ]
Others
There are a number who have tinkered with innovative systems themselves.
They include Todd Mastro, owner of the Maxi Taxi business in Naples. After reading about Weston, Mastro contacted him to offer technical advice about how to make his invention more usable. He referred Weston to a technology that could automatically meter the flow of gasoline into the device, a technical difficulty for Weston.
Mastro also said he adds chemical pills purchased from Fuel Freedom International to the gas tanks of his company’s taxis to boost their mileage. The pills consist of a catalyst that helps burn gasoline in the combustion chamber, he said. Mastro said he’s convinced the pills add 5 to 15 miles per gallon to the mileage of the vehicles, which range from full-size sedans to GM’s Yukon SUV. Mastro said he became so enthusiastic about the product he now helps market it in the U.S. “I can’t shut up about this,” Mastro said. “If I’m saving money and helping the environment, I have to tell somebody.”
Richard Gargano, a business consultant from Naples, also contacted the Sun in hopes of forming a business relationship with Weston. Gargano said he represents a company that plans to build a high-tech enterprise center in south Florida. “I have associates who could be very interested in taking Weston to the next level in terms of financing him, housing him and getting this invention patented,” Gargano said.
The article also inspired inventor Gerald Rowley of Delray Beach to contact the Sun to share information about his invention, the Vapster. Rowley, who also works as a real estate appraiser, said he became an amateur mechanic because his hobby was racing go carts and dragsters. In the 1980s, he attended a seminar on the potential benefits of vaporizing gasoline, and he became hooked on the idea.
“I’ve done lots of research,” Rowley said. “I’ve studied a couple hundred patents (for vapor carburetors). The problem is turning a liquid into a gas in a way that it’s controlled.” Rowley spent many years trying to get engines to run on his device, which vaporizes gasoline by using the exhaust manifold to heat it.
Once the fuel reaches 250 degrees, it would build up enough pressure to run an engine, but the engine would run poorly, he said.
Rowley said he finally found success by accident. In frustration, he threw a rag over the air intake on a lawn mower and the engine suddenly started running well.
Rowley obtained a patent in 2003 for his device and is now looking for investors.
“I’m just a backyard mechanic,” Rowley said. “If I can get it to work, I don’t see why the large automakers can’t.” [they are covertly, actively, suppressing it. Read about their engineers above]
You can e-mail Greg Martin at gmartin@sun-herald.com.
see original story at: m.naplesnews.com/news/2007/oct/09/port_charlotte_man_claims_device_can_boost_car_mil/
from Tim Allen’s Idea Exchange; December 2007
THE AVFS
Hi,
My name is John Weston, the inventor of a fuel system called the Air/Vapor Flow System, referred to as AVFS, and would like to present this to everyone who is into automotive, energy saving systems, environment and new ideas that are a benefit to our society. Not to mention our economy, since the AVFS has been proven to get 14.8 miles on 4oz of 87octane gasoline, witnessed by Mr. Greg Martin, a reporter for the Charlotte Sun-Herald of Port Charlotte Florida.
I developed the AVFS to operate an engine on the gasoline vapors which eliminates liquid gasoline from going to the engine. This does away with any unburned fuel in the exhaust (meaning no need for the EGR system) and reduces the emissions by up to 70% and possibly even more now (since I am doing further R&D).
With the reporter riding along with me when he was doing the story on the AVFS in the local news paper, we were able to drive 14.8 miles on 4 oz. of liquid gasoline going to the AVFS tank that I had developed and adapted to the 1992 GEO Storm GSI, using the simple materials I was able to afford at the time, being some pvc tubing and fittings, some electrical conduit tubing and a plastic tank that was actually manufactured to be a tank for windshield washer fluid. That added up to be about 460 miles of driving if we had gone through a gallon of gasoline during the ride for proving that the AVFS does actually work and was being witnessed by the reporter so he would be able to be honestly writing a true story.
My reason, hopes and desires for presenting the AVFS in this manner is that perhaps someone would be willing to either come here or have me brought to his/her facility or business, regardless of small or large selection of automobiles or equipment operated by gasoline engines, and give someone the opportunity to see it function in person, on any vehicle chosen to have the AVFS adapted to, the aspects of the AVFS and perhaps present it or assist financially as a means of helping get the AVFS in use for the sake of our environment, economy, energy savings and ability to stop buying so much oil from out of our country.
I thank you for your time and efforts in reading this email and for your response and other actions.
. . .
I did file a patent registration on it before presenting it to others. Plus, being a certified paralegal helped to put together several other AGREEMENTS that are signed before others are shown the whole working of the AVFS. I am hoping this will reach some people who will be able and interested in sponsoring or investing soon. Hate to say, but am at a financial stand still currently and open for sponsorship(s) from $10.00 and up. Even small amounts help in big ways.
Sincerely,
John Weston AVFSman@aol.com
see original post at ideaexchange.timallen.com/viewtopic.php?t=5315
___________________________
in response to an encouraging comment about the Florida racing circuit:
Thu Dec 13, 2007
Thank you for scouting for me Hon. I have sent emails to lots of the racing circuit also. But seems they must get swamped with so much emails and takes a long while for them to get back to answering them all. I keep plugging at it every day tho. So hopefully, things will start moving along soon.
Have been hoping that Tim would catch wind of this since he is really into new ideas, energy savings and such. Am sure he will in due time (I hope) : )
Jul 17, 2008 10:36 PM
Later, the same statement, above, was posted on the care2 petition web site.
John Weston
AVFSman [at] aol.com
Posted 6/23/2010 9:33 pm at f2bbs.com/bbs/show_topic/257928
Hi,
Thanks for posting again. I know what you mean about others being open for trying to take the AVFS idea, soooooo, I did file a patent registration on it before presenting it to others. Plus, being a certified paralegal helped to put together several other AGREEMENTS that are signed before others are shown the whole working of the AVFS.
I am hoping this will reach some people who will be able and interested in sponsoring or investing soon. Hate to say, but am at a financial stand still currently and open for sponsorship(s) from $10.00 and up. Even small amounts help in big ways.
AVFSman, Inventor of the Air/Vapor Flow System— “AVFS”
he also mentions his patent registration at
anonboard.com/bbs/show_topic/257928/1#msg_1936690
* * UPDATE * *
John Weston
02-07-2014
Good morning,
Thank you for your efforts in sending me the email and for putting the post about the AVFS news articles and other posts on your website. I did re-write the post on the Tim Allen site in order to update some news about the initial direction I am determined to follow through with in regard to the importance of being able to obtain energy that will drastically reduce the demand for paying the power companies as most all people, as well as businesses, are doing in order to enjoy the benefits of having electricity; along with contact information that was/is on the original posting there. I have also worked at establishing some pages on Google, GoogleGreen, Facebook and wherever I can present current details about the AVFS and my intention to bring forth freedom from the “grid” for as many people and businesses as possible.
. . . The mystery of 100+ mpg cars, and the disappearance & deaths of men behind it,
Feel free to contact me if interested in assisting with the funds required to further the development of the AVFS by having a living and work establishment available. Until then I am unable to proceed with the progress that will become a very helpful endeavor. By and with the help of the Almighty it WILL be accomplished.
John Weston
AVFSman@aol.com
Feb.08,2014
Great determination concerning the air/fuel mixture ratio. The ‘by the book’ 14.7/1 ratio will vary depending upon what TYPE of fuel is being used- any difference in the octane rating will cause the ratio to fluctuate in order to obtain a near perfect burn of all the liquid fuel that is being mixed with the air. And even that can change depending on altitude in extreme conditions such as found in aircraft with internal combustion engines. And THEN we get to the major difference of the more favorable mixture ratio when we get to mixing air with VAPOR. There is absolutely not any way to go by the book when dealing with a total different mixture, even when only mixing the air with vapors from different types of fuel (liquid). I learned that when using the AVFS on my Geo Storm by using the standard 87 octane gasoline, then 89 octane, then used Coleman fuel(for lanterns), then charcoal lighter fluid and even rubbing alcohol. On each of the different fuels there was a different setting of the “air/vapor” mixture for the engine to run smoothly. Not only at idle, but on acceleration as well. I did NOT change timing or bypass any of the original sensors that are factory installed on our vehicles now-a-days. Lets get back to the very basics of how the internal combustion engine operates and we will see what we are able to do to improve the power and acceptance of them.
John Weston
AVFSman@aol.com
02-13-2014
Good morning,
Thank you for your efforts in putting news about the AVFS on your web site and/or your news publications. I have written in order to update some news about the initial direction I am determined to follow through with in regard to the importance of being able to obtain energy that will drastically reduce the demand for paying the power companies as most all people, as well as businesses, are doing in order to enjoy the benefits of having electricity; along with contact information that was/is on the original postings. I have also worked at establishing some pages on Google, Facebook and wherever I can present current details about the AVFS and my intention to bring forth freedom from the “grid” for as many people and businesses as possible.
I have been out of commission for the past five years due to a wrongful/illegal conviction/sentence for being in possession of a firearm at my home where I was sleeping 8 hours of a supposed 10 hour standoff. The fact that Indiana is a state that restores the right to bear arms if convicted of a felony (unless the conviction was domestic battery) was not accepted by the court in Charlotte County Florida where the alleged incident took place. I intend to seek an attorney or firm to bring suite against the state of Florida, etc. for the violation of the Brady Act that caused me to be incarcerated for the past five years. But because of that action, I am unable to retain any such assistance until I am able to get the AVFS situated in a profitable manner; of which I am in need of financial assistance to get accomplished also, along with obtaining a place to live. No garage or access to a place for doing any further development of the AVFS is available at this time, but will hopefully come to a prompt end so I will be able to start getting the results that WILL follow when I am able to present the difference that the AVFS makes when adapted to an engine operating generators. My intention is to keep a focus on applying the AVFS on generator applications.
… There are pictures of different applications, shown [here] … [These] pictures will establish the research I am still needing to do in regard to different size, dimensions, etc. before continuing with one particular unit package of the AVFS for use on other equipment applications. That search will also result in presenting a site (The mystery of 100+ mpg cars, and the disappearance & deaths of men behind it) that I will NOT allow to sway me in regard to continuing, even though I am the only one of the three shown who is still able to continue.
. . .
John Weston
AVFSman@aol.com
contact John at AVFSman@aol.com
Do it yourself
2014: We have now found others like John who have discovered how to run on vapor-fumes and are sharing their success on our “Run your car on vapor” page. … They show and tell exactly how John and the others do it. – with a bottle and some hose.
When we become one, they will have lost all of the foothold they have on mankind. In essence, low cost heat, A.C., travel, food, clothing, in short lost cost of living is the bane of there existence, for in this we have complete ability to see into the true afairs in any people group, nation, religion what so ever, and this forum is a seed-bed of that very God given freedom to create a remedy to a problem as we Americans have done for just over 400 years=James Town 1606. They truely were the first Americans. Man’s desire for truth, freedom is based in a very passion to live, move and have our being, and to serve other men according to our own heart and conscience, not to be deictated to and lab animals. I’m very sorry to be so long winded, but when some make statements as I just read here, it behoves me to clear the air. Ladies and gentlemen, make your devices, lengthen your effect in others lives, give, serve one another freely as you’ve been served. Help each other deeply, for in this you are a true American. What the most powerful inventors are doing right now, today is posting it, proving and giving it all away as quickly as possible. This internet is changing us at a rate that is stagering. We are seeing things only spoken of in the Old Testament, but are now happening before our eyes now. Knowledge is increasing at a rate that is wonderful. Imagine a people who travel using water, HHO, gas vapor systems, bikes that travel 500-800 miles on one gallon of gas using these technologies. Not to even metion the perm magnet motors that need only to be started and then produce 600 HP elec. Wow what a wonderf time it will be. Thanks, and God bless all your efforts to learn and be teachers of one another, your truly,
J.L. Dixon, Indy, Indiana
Hi;
I am very interested in this technology. I have developed a very unique way to make gasoline vapour. I am surprised that nobody has mentioned this. Hesitant to just give my knowledge over the internet. I would like to see some working plans with gas vapour. All I want to get is 40 to 60 miles per gallon. Are you interested is trading knowledge?
How can people get hold of me if I do not publish my email address?
Mel Gerling
tell about it here or on our “Super Carburetors (Hist.)” page. …
-ed
thanks for the contribution we need this kind of device to reduce carbon emission the the big oil company are thinking other way around, they will some profit.
hay i’m workin on a fuel vapor system and am using a pwm
to drive the injectors it and to create heat i use induction coil rith know i’m bench testing i’m an auto machanic
and have good andestending how this works my gol is to make
a system control by pwm circuit so i can fine tune it
It ‘s great what everyone is saying good and bad. but the truth of the matter is this. I’ve come up with a way to measure the vapor intake and feeding. now it’s time to get this system put in to my Tahoe. so with out any more b/s would the correct party e-mail me back. so we can get started.
facebook.
The “correct party” is John.
Contact John and ask him for a price on materials and some instructions. Hope he will give you what you, and we all, need!
-ed
I have also thought about this and three things come to my mind.
1. Some Alternator produce over 300 amps. Attaching a turbine in multiple spots where air already flows around the vehicle would not only look cool but produce possible 300+amps each and yes energy in must meet energy out, but what about downhill and breaking and wind thats already blowing on your car.
2. Why can’t we combine an air compressor in a tank and the air pressure will move the pistons, the engine will move the car and the alternator and thus power the batteries to run a electric that powers the air compressor.
3. Why can’t we have electric engines at the wheel, where spread out the load on every wheel or a combination of multiple engines at seperate points. If you had one at each wheel, one on each side of the shafts that move the wheels, break assist power back to the batteries, solar for paint, like the new nano solar.
This is the most exciting news I have read since I was told I was going to have my first baby. I am not able to do this for myself, but I want to find someone to Install it on my car. God bless you for your fortitude.
See if you can contact John and ask him for a price on materials and the time he needs to write up some instructions. Hope he will give you what you, and we all, need!
– ed
do a search on google, how to run your car on gas vapors. then click on link that is to presscore very good detailed pictures of how to make all this work! good luck all!
sounds good. If it is, we will hear of people doing it soon.
-ed
If you are running your car on gas fumes and want to increas the mpg. Try injecting a water mist into the intake port. The water droplets turn into steam. If you get the drops of water at just the right size and in the right amount (number)
And run it at 100 rpm. It will produce masive amounts of low end tourqe.
What you have is a steam engine. You can get high gas high milage.
Turning water in to steam in the combustion chamber with small droplets of water is a much more effecent way of turning water into steam.It takes much less gas to turn water in to steam because the small drops of water turn into steam much quicker and the fireis much hoter becaused the air fuel is compresed.
If the drops of water are of the right size. the drops of water are still turning in to steam as the piston moves from the top dtc, to half way down the cylender. High presure at the half way mark produces the most power from the gas engine just like the steam engine does.
A winning team.
What is wrong with the steam engin is they use a boiler to heat the water. Very ineffecent
What is wrong with the gas engine is by thew time the piston gets to the half way mark down the cylender. it has lost 80% of it presure.
Make a half bread between the gas and sateam enging. You get the best of both worlds.
Massive amounts of tourque at low rpm.
Low rpm = high gas milage
If you are running your car on gas fumes “Don’t touch it”. Anything over 400 mpg is still 400 mpg and still kicks all the oil co’s off their thrones. It still ends “the era of big oil”. John, and others, have done it.
When you have done it, then tell us about it. It sounds good, but …
– editor
hydrogen gas contains 1800 times its own volume in power so hydrogen can produce lots of power and economy.
The WHITE JET Injector works on electrical induction to deliver a supersonic blast of fuel into the cylinder, it i sperfectly controllable in amount and duration of fuel jet to allow for varying speeds.
it burns perfectly cleanly.
im trying too make my 1991 lickion town car run on gas fums but i dont understand what im doing rong could anyone plz help me out plz i really need this thanks
Ive been reading and studying high milage on the internet for the last 3yrs. Ive built and sold over 8 hho sys. Each improved the milage of the vehicle by 20 to 30 percent. I am looking for the holy grail of milage (possibly vapourizing gas?) I would like to communicate with you on this subject. I hope you will respond. I have some interesting contacts that might be interested if you can prove this sys. Respectfully;Terry Eaton
I am not a mechanic but I have always like it so I do must of my own vehicles maintance and have read about this vapor carburetos I would love to get my hands on one of this designs and see if I can use it,so if any body can give me a hand with finding one
Dear Sirs, I send this idea to the EPA and related links already. That is, the FAA invented a Nanotube air filter that isolates pure Nitrogen from air, which is used in all airliners to fill up the airplane’s emptying fuel tanks with Nitrogen, so that electrostatic sparks cannot make the fuel tanks explode. It’s a fairly big item, so what if we used a bigger version of this Nanotube air filter to isolate pure Oxygen from air, and inject that with a somewhat lessened fuel ratio injection in the massive diesel engines in ocean freighters, to give them better mileage and less pollution by totally burning up every molecules of fuel? Further, if it works there, perhaps a far more larger version of these Nanotube filters could be used to cheaply provide pure Oxygen for our coal-burning electric power plants, to likewise get more mileage or fuel efficiency out of that type of fuel, and fully burn it all up so there’s zero air particulates or soot expelled into the atmosphere?
has anybody used a simple system to auto adjust for more vapor with higher rmp with load so the car wont hesitate. my 4 cylinder car will be running on the vapors from the gas and would like some suggestions. im also using a water reservoir tank in the trunk collectiing vapors from gas tank with hose running to the air intake
I have made 3 HHO units not crazy about them. Have 2003 ford E350,mpg 13. Have made a vapor sys to run a 13 hp engine. works great. I’m not looking for sys to run efi ford above. was thinking of letting gas from tank vaporize into a “vapor” holding tank that will feed efi sys with the unvapored gas recycling back into the main gas tank. this seems pretty simple since experimenting with 13 hp mower engine. looking for diagram of efi fuel system that I can see how it all works. any suggestions where to go, no not there, would really appreciate the news. I do drive outs for the courier company I work for. The added mpg would be a true blessing. Thank you, Bill Collins
Sounds like your have a good approach…
Have been following and working with MPG for over 20 years… Am an electrical engineer, have a couple HHO systems running on some family cars, have bought and checked out five different models to find the best results… read my web site at simplytruth.com
Have had a copy of the original Pouge 200MPG carb for over 20 years,,, Best to you… We do not steal info, just find and put out the truth… We are glad to help anyone!
To solve the problem of replenishing the fuel in the tank. Something along the lines of a float bowl system could be used. Just like in the old carburetors. Especially if a way can be found to switch it so it turns on the electric fuel pump in today’s cars.
When we become one, they will have lost all of the foothold they have on mankind. In essence, low cost heat, A.C., travel, food, clothing, in short lost cost of living is the bane of there existence, for in this we have complete ability to see into the true afairs in any people group, nation, religion what so ever, and this forum is a seed-bed of that very God given freedom to create a remedy to a problem as we Americans have done for just over 400 years=James Town 1606. They truely were the first Americans. Man’s desire for truth, freedom is based in a very passion to live, move and have our being, and to serve other men according to our own heart and conscience, not to be deictated to and lab animals. I’m very sorry to be so long winded, but when some make statements as I just read here, it behoves me to clear the air. Ladies and gentlemen, make your devices, lengthen your effect in others lives, give, serve one another freely as you’ve been served. Help each other deeply, for in this you are a true American. What the most powerful inventors are doing right now, today is posting it, proving and giving it all away as quickly as possible. This internet is changing us at a rate that is stagering. We are seeing things only spoken of in the Old Testament, but are now happening before our eyes now. Knowledge is increasing at a rate that is wonderful. Imagine a people who travel using water, HHO, gas vapor systems, bikes that travel 500-800 miles on one gallon of gas using these technologies. Not to even metion the perm magnet motors that need only to be started and then produce 600 HP elec. Wow what a wonderf time it will be. Thanks, and God bless all your efforts to learn and be teachers of one another, your truly,
J.L. Dixon, Indy, Indiana
Hi;
I am very interested in this technology. I have developed a very unique way to make gasoline vapour. I am surprised that nobody has mentioned this. Hesitant to just give my knowledge over the internet. I would like to see some working plans with gas vapour. All I want to get is 40 to 60 miles per gallon. Are you interested is trading knowledge?
How can people get hold of me if I do not publish my email address?
Mel Gerling
tell about it here or on our “Super Carburetors (Hist.)” page. …
-ed
John I need to talk to you about yor vapor system if I can git some info from you how this sys works. Thank you. I will be calling you soon.
This is NOT John’s website. This is an energy efficient vehicles news blog. His accomplishments are just one topic. You must contact him directly.
-ed
thanks for the contribution we need this kind of device to reduce carbon emission the the big oil company are thinking other way around, they will some profit.
I can pray for you be next millionare, god bless you
hay i’m workin on a fuel vapor system and am using a pwm
to drive the injectors it and to create heat i use induction coil rith know i’m bench testing i’m an auto machanic
and have good andestending how this works my gol is to make
a system control by pwm circuit so i can fine tune it
It ‘s great what everyone is saying good and bad. but the truth of the matter is this. I’ve come up with a way to measure the vapor intake and feeding. now it’s time to get this system put in to my Tahoe. so with out any more b/s would the correct party e-mail me back. so we can get started.
facebook.
The “correct party” is John.
Contact John and ask him for a price on materials and some instructions. Hope he will give you what you, and we all, need!
-ed
I have also thought about this and three things come to my mind.
1. Some Alternator produce over 300 amps. Attaching a turbine in multiple spots where air already flows around the vehicle would not only look cool but produce possible 300+amps each and yes energy in must meet energy out, but what about downhill and breaking and wind thats already blowing on your car.
2. Why can’t we combine an air compressor in a tank and the air pressure will move the pistons, the engine will move the car and the alternator and thus power the batteries to run a electric that powers the air compressor.
3. Why can’t we have electric engines at the wheel, where spread out the load on every wheel or a combination of multiple engines at seperate points. If you had one at each wheel, one on each side of the shafts that move the wheels, break assist power back to the batteries, solar for paint, like the new nano solar.
This is the most exciting news I have read since I was told I was going to have my first baby. I am not able to do this for myself, but I want to find someone to Install it on my car. God bless you for your fortitude.
See if you can contact John and ask him for a price on materials and the time he needs to write up some instructions. Hope he will give you what you, and we all, need!
– ed
do a search on google, how to run your car on gas vapors. then click on link that is to presscore very good detailed pictures of how to make all this work! good luck all!
sounds good. If it is, we will hear of people doing it soon.
-ed
If you are running your car on gas fumes and want to increas the mpg. Try injecting a water mist into the intake port. The water droplets turn into steam. If you get the drops of water at just the right size and in the right amount (number)
And run it at 100 rpm. It will produce masive amounts of low end tourqe.
What you have is a steam engine. You can get high gas high milage.
Turning water in to steam in the combustion chamber with small droplets of water is a much more effecent way of turning water into steam.It takes much less gas to turn water in to steam because the small drops of water turn into steam much quicker and the fireis much hoter becaused the air fuel is compresed.
If the drops of water are of the right size. the drops of water are still turning in to steam as the piston moves from the top dtc, to half way down the cylender. High presure at the half way mark produces the most power from the gas engine just like the steam engine does.
A winning team.
What is wrong with the steam engin is they use a boiler to heat the water. Very ineffecent
What is wrong with the gas engine is by thew time the piston gets to the half way mark down the cylender. it has lost 80% of it presure.
Make a half bread between the gas and sateam enging. You get the best of both worlds.
Massive amounts of tourque at low rpm.
Low rpm = high gas milage
If you are running your car on gas fumes “Don’t touch it”. Anything over 400 mpg is still 400 mpg and still kicks all the oil co’s off their thrones. It still ends “the era of big oil”. John, and others, have done it.
When you have done it, then tell us about it. It sounds good, but …
– editor
hydrogen gas contains 1800 times its own volume in power so hydrogen can produce lots of power and economy.
The WHITE JET Injector works on electrical induction to deliver a supersonic blast of fuel into the cylinder, it i sperfectly controllable in amount and duration of fuel jet to allow for varying speeds.
it burns perfectly cleanly.
im trying too make my 1991 lickion town car run on gas fums but i dont understand what im doing rong could anyone plz help me out plz i really need this thanks
Ive been reading and studying high milage on the internet for the last 3yrs. Ive built and sold over 8 hho sys. Each improved the milage of the vehicle by 20 to 30 percent. I am looking for the holy grail of milage (possibly vapourizing gas?) I would like to communicate with you on this subject. I hope you will respond. I have some interesting contacts that might be interested if you can prove this sys. Respectfully;Terry Eaton
I am not a mechanic but I have always like it so I do must of my own vehicles maintance and have read about this vapor carburetos I would love to get my hands on one of this designs and see if I can use it,so if any body can give me a hand with finding one
Dear Sirs, I send this idea to the EPA and related links already. That is, the FAA invented a Nanotube air filter that isolates pure Nitrogen from air, which is used in all airliners to fill up the airplane’s emptying fuel tanks with Nitrogen, so that electrostatic sparks cannot make the fuel tanks explode. It’s a fairly big item, so what if we used a bigger version of this Nanotube air filter to isolate pure Oxygen from air, and inject that with a somewhat lessened fuel ratio injection in the massive diesel engines in ocean freighters, to give them better mileage and less pollution by totally burning up every molecules of fuel? Further, if it works there, perhaps a far more larger version of these Nanotube filters could be used to cheaply provide pure Oxygen for our coal-burning electric power plants, to likewise get more mileage or fuel efficiency out of that type of fuel, and fully burn it all up so there’s zero air particulates or soot expelled into the atmosphere?
has anybody used a simple system to auto adjust for more vapor with higher rmp with load so the car wont hesitate. my 4 cylinder car will be running on the vapors from the gas and would like some suggestions. im also using a water reservoir tank in the trunk collectiing vapors from gas tank with hose running to the air intake
I have made 3 HHO units not crazy about them. Have 2003 ford E350,mpg 13. Have made a vapor sys to run a 13 hp engine. works great. I’m not looking for sys to run efi ford above. was thinking of letting gas from tank vaporize into a “vapor” holding tank that will feed efi sys with the unvapored gas recycling back into the main gas tank. this seems pretty simple since experimenting with 13 hp mower engine. looking for diagram of efi fuel system that I can see how it all works. any suggestions where to go, no not there, would really appreciate the news. I do drive outs for the courier company I work for. The added mpg would be a true blessing. Thank you, Bill Collins
Sounds like your have a good approach…
Have been following and working with MPG for over 20 years… Am an electrical engineer, have a couple HHO systems running on some family cars, have bought and checked out five different models to find the best results… read my web site at simplytruth.com
Have had a copy of the original Pouge 200MPG carb for over 20 years,,, Best to you… We do not steal info, just find and put out the truth… We are glad to help anyone!
To solve the problem of replenishing the fuel in the tank. Something along the lines of a float bowl system could be used. Just like in the old carburetors. Especially if a way can be found to switch it so it turns on the electric fuel pump in today’s cars.