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Almost no one drives a car with a carburetor anymore (other than at racetracks?) but many of us have heard that there were people years ago, back in the 60's(?), who developed very efficient "carburetors", that got 100 mpg or more. We all wonder, and some may doubt that, there is any proof anywhere to back them up but, I do remember an article in Popular Mechanics back in the 1960's which even got the cover photo for the month, telling about a guy who built a carburetor for his sedan which vaporized the fuel and enabled his V8 to get over 100mpg. ... Today, that vaporized fuel would go into our fuel injectors.   -- editor, FEV

Argosy Magazine had a five-page article about Tom Ogle and the media witnessed test of the "Oglemobile". On that test run, Tom Ogle achieved more than 100 MPG in a 4,600 pound 1970 Ford Galaxie.
Tom Ogle was granted patent # 4,177,779 on Dec. 11th, 1979
Argosy Magazine, August 1977

From Popular Science, December 1957, page 79:
"The fuel, of course, goes along in suspension." "... Raw, indigestible fuel slobbers into the cylinders --- into some more than others." "... Slobbering engines are fuel hogs."


"Gasoline in the liquid form does not burn. Nor does it explode. Only the vapor that comes from the gasoline will burn. Therefore, to mix raw gasoline with air, and attempt to explode it in an internal combustion engine is a very wasteful, costly, and polluting practice. It also shortens the life of the engine and exhaust system."


In every recent Presidential Administration, whether Democratic or Republican, several key Cabinet appointments are filled with individuals who have large and powerful interests in the automobile and oil industry.

There is no co-ordinated cover-up. It is not necessary, Almost every large national/multi-national corporation, and many of their executives, spend thousands, the maximum allowed, on elected officials who vote in their favor. Then, they spend millions on PAC's and "front" organizations with the hidden purpose of swaying public opinion toward whatever will preserve their profits, avoid millions in expenses and, sabotage any politician's campaign who won't go along but, designed to look like "concerned citizens" groups - deliberately advertized as such and soliciting every gullible citizen to join, to vote their way, to parrot their deception and, expand their mirage.


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06/26/2008 09:47 PM
Did anyone ever hear of the Vacuum Carburator developed in San Antonio Texas around 1985? I worked at a auto parts store that sold three of them. One was on a 454 cid motorhome. It went from 4 miles per gallon to 15 mpg. With just 2 moving parts. - Lance Reinhard

07/01/2008 12:56 AM
Do you have more information on it? - Editor FEVj

07/01/2008 09:14 AM
Not really. It was called The Vacuum Carburetor. The man whose name I don't remember, that developed it came in the store and talked to the owner. He put one out on display and we stocked one in the back. Being young and dumb I thought it was crap. But we sold one and the builder installed it for the customer for free just to get it out there. At the time the carburetor sold for 300.00 which was high for the time. I saw the thing run and was amazed that it worked. The owner of the motor home when on a trip up north and was gone for 2 weeks. When he returned, all he could do was praise it. He sworn the motor home made 15 mpg. Almost 4 times what it made before. We were ready to sell them left and right, when the builder came in and said he sold the rights to someone and would never have to work again. - Lance Reinhard


PS   Don Garllits, drag racing legend, has a Pogue carburetor in his museum see below



So many inventions.
So many inventors.
So many reports in national magazines.


October 1913 Country life,   page 104,   Alternate carburetion.
June 1916 Scientific American,   page 584,   Dual carburetor system also see Nov. 17, 1917.
December 7, 1919 Outgoing,   pages 176-177,   Why carburetors change.
August 5, 1920 Auto Industries,   page 273,   Carburetor with swirling motion.
June 1920 Scientific American Monthly,   page 6,   99 More miles per gallon of gasoline.
October 28, 1923 Literary Digest,   page 24,   Suggestions to Uncle Henry.
July 1924 Popular Mechanics,   pages 14-16,   50 miles per gallon of gas ?
March 1926 The Scientific American Digest,   page 185:   Doubling the Automobile Mileage Per Gallon see below
1926 Lockwood and Son, R.W.A Brewer- - London,   page 176,   Economics Of Carburetting and Manifolding.
October 5, 1929 Collier's pages,   10-11,   300 miles to the gallon !
April 1935 Scientific American,   page 206,   Doubling gas mileage.
December 1936 Mass Transportation,   page 406,   Exceptional Mileage Claimed For New Carburetor
see below
Dec. 25, 1937 Business Week,   pages 20-21,   Carburetor monopoly.
March 5, 1938 Business Week,   page 39,   New carburetor to use low cost fuel.
January 19, 1940 Engineering,   page 60-61,   Coal-gas carburetors for cars.
April 1940 Automobile Engine,   pages 113-115
November 1942 Roads and Streets,   page 55,   Carburetor service on kerosene and distillate engines.
Sept. 13, 1948 Newsweek,   page 66,   An addition to the carburetor boosts mileage.
November 1950 Reader's Digest,   pages 77-79,   Test proven carburetor-less design.
January 1952 Popular Science,   page 116,   This American car will get 35 miles per gallon.
October 8, 1953 The Machinist,   page 7,   100 Miles On One Gallon Of Gas? Chicago Members Say It's Possible see below
August 4, 1960 Machine Design,   page 10,   Carburetor switch stretches mileage.
August 22, 1960 Product Engineering,   pages 18-19,   Twin carburetor saves fuel.
January 1968 Mechanix Illustrated,   pages 62-63,   Expect to see this carburetor on Detroit cars in less than 3 years.
October 1969 Mechanix Illustrated,   page 77,   Small General Motors car goes 70 miles per gallon of gas . . . not for sale.
July 1974 Mechanix Illustrated,   pages 46-47,   60 - 100 miles per gallon carburetor.
July 1974 Mechanix Illustrated,   Page 46,   The Search For A No-Waste Carburetor" by Bruce Wennerstrom see below
September 1974 Car and Driver,   pages 68-72,   "You gotta Believe"
December 1974 Car and Driver,   pages 31-33+,   When is a carburetor not a carburetor ?
June 20, 1977 The Spotlight,   Washington D.C Newspaper,   160 miles to the gallon.
August 1977 Argosy,   pages 23-25+,   "Over 100 Mile On A Gallon Of Gas" by Gregory Jones
see below

If you have any of the above articles (or others),
we will be glad to display them here at
www.fuel-efficient-vehicles.org

example: September 1955, Mechanix Illustrated:
                Inventor's Miracle [hydraulic] Car May Revolutionize Auto Industry   * see it *     [100 mpg]



"McBurney explains"

vaporizing and thermal catalytic cracking.




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Pogue Carburetor

Patent 2,026,798

Diagram


"Don Garlits, a drag racing legend, poses Aug. 2, 2002, with a 125-miles-per-gallon Pogue Carburetor at Don Garlits Museum of Drag Racing, Ocala, Florida."

photo by Bruce Ackerman, Star Banner, 2002



Production line of Fish carburetors in Daytona Beach, Florida about the time the U.S. Post Office was returning all Fish carburetor orders to the senders with "fraudulent" stamped on their order. The Post Office claimed there were no carburetors actually being produced.






Newspaper and Magazine Reports which have been written over the past 50 years.


A. "Doubling the Automobile Mileage Per Gallon," The Scientific American Digest, March 1926, page 185.

This report describes the Bursley-Trask Fuel Adjuster . A centrifugal carburetor that partially gasifies the fuel droplets and make for marked efficiency. Their findings show an

"average of seven runs without the adjuster- - -19.2 miles per gallon..."
"average of five runs with the adjuster - - -34.2 miles per gallon."

An added benefit of this invention was a decreased in carbon buildup and decreased pollution !

B. "Exceptional Mileage Claimed For New Carburetor", Mass Transportation, December 1936, page 406.

This carburetor was the invention of Charles Nelson Pogue, of Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.

"Test made with passenger automobiles indicates that cars equipped with this new carburetor will operate 200 miles per gallon. Although the exceptional mileage is of greatest importance, the new carburetor is said to have many other advantages in the way of reducing maintenance."

The Pogue carburetor system received widespread news coverage in 1935 and 1936.

In the course of our research, we have personally interviewed several older citizens (from Canada and the U.S.) who remember the Pogue test and widespread publicity.... some were eyewitnesses.
Don Garlits, a drag racing legend, has one on display at his "Don Garlits Museum of Drag Racing", Ocala, Florida.



C. "100 Miles On One Gallon Of Gas? Chicago Members Say It's Possible" The Machinist, October 8, 1953 page 7.

This I.A.M. Lodge 48 member-inventor says 100- 400 miles per gallon of gasoline is indeed possible. You can se a picture of the concepts found in the Pogue invention are noted in this system.

Any large city public library should have this magazine available for inspection.

D. "The Search For A No-Waste Carburetor" by Bruce Wennerstrom Mechanix Illustrated , July 1974, Page 46.

This report covers the account of an Indiana inventor whose carburetor is reported to get 60 miles per gallon of gasoline.... some say the figure is closer to 100 MPG. The M.I. reported witnessed the test conducted on a 17 year old Ford Station Wagon. The concept of this carburetion system is to accomplish a "complete vaporization of fuel".

E. "Over 100 Mile On A Gallon Of Gas" by Gregory Jones, Argosy August 1977, pages 23 - 25 +

This magazine was not available in the public library. However, one can obtain a copy of this report by writing:

Popular Publications, Inc. 420 Lexington Ave. New York, New York 10017

Already this report invention has received attention from several newspapers, magazines and radio/ television reports. Also the invention has drawn phone calls and personal; visits form the automobile industry, oil company representatives, Patent Office examiners and from the Federal Energy Research and Development Administration.

The Energy Research and Development Administration officials who viewed this invention gave a guarded evaluation, but was certain of one thing... and that is this was not a hoax.

What are the claims ?

With this invention, the eight cylinder engine will get 90 - 120 miles per gallon of gasoline. A six cylinder engine will average 140 - 200 miles per gallon , and a four cylinder engine will average 260 - 360 miles per gallon of gasoline !

All those involved in the Interstate highway test runs found no gimmicks.

The raw gasoline is first heated, then introduced into the engine in a warm gaseous form. Sophisticated absorptive surfaces, lines and tanks are required. Yet the invention can be easily adapted to the conventional car. The tests described in recent news reports where on a 1970 Ford with a V-8 engine.

One engineer from a nearby University was quoted to say, " I don't know why somebody didn't try this before. He's eliminated the carburetor and achieved what the gasoline internal combustion engine was supposed to do all along - - - to operate off fumes. ... He's found a way to make it work."

* * * * * *

Only by reading the full context and looking at the photographs and charts can one really grasp the full significance and worth of such claims.


Personal Testimony

We include only the first name of these individuals to protect their privacy.

A. One Saturday morning we interviewed a purchasing agent employed at a local hospital. He said he drove from Los Angeles to Chicago and back in a 1964 Chevrolet with a V-8 engine. He estimated the average freeway speed was 70 miles per hour(in the 1960's). The test car would constantly get 85 miles per gallon of gasoline. This was not a factory carburetor. It was a special-built system, invented by Mr. Michael ______.

B. One spring day we interviewed the owner of a service station in a small western Kansas town . He has been in the gas station business for over 40 years in the same location. One steady customer bought a 1949 Ford that consistently averaged over 80 miles per gallon of gasoline. The station owner saw this carburetor many times..... he does not doubt its existence.

C. Mr. D_________ owns a tire and alignment garage. He personally knows of a man and his carburetor invention. The inventor was a friend and customer for years in this Oklahoma town. His car averaged 60 miles per gallon of gasoline.


We interview inventors:

D. Mr.S. told us about his invention. On a Mercury V-8 engine he attached his device and regularly attained 38 miles per gallon. He did not patent the invention. This man worked for a Ford dealership. Knowledge of his carburetor was widespread in this small western city. In this particular case, a Ford representative made a special trip to study the carburetor. He made drawings and diagrams. Mr. S. doesn't know what the motor company has done with the idea.

E. Another Mr. S. (a retired mechanic) has a special device he has invented. Also, he modifies the stock carburetor. He has used this principle for years and on several vehciles. His present car is a 1973 Ford LTD with a V - 8 engine. His mileage is double the figure obtained by the factory carburetor.

F. As previously mentioned, we interviewed those involved with a very recent invention in which the V- 8 Ford test car gets over 100 miles per gallon of gasoline. Their test results were witnessed by many. Engineers and mechanics attest to the feasibility of this system.

PATENTS

There are quite a number of patents for such inventions on file in the U.S. Patent Office available for all who want to do a patent search.

We must conclude that with so many patents, tests and eye-witness accounts there must be more than just a grain of truth to the cover-ups and facts involved.

RESISTANCE

We know that what is written at this point draws great resistance from those engineers and mechanics who believed it requires a prescribed air/as mixture ratio to obtain a specific amount of power... and no more. In other words there is a limit as to how far one gallon of gasoline will propel a car (let's say a large size V-8 auto). Usually this "limit" is the miles per gallon figured advertised by the auto manufacturer. A common mileage rating for a big car is "14 miles per highway".

One questioning engineer, upon learning about our research, wanted to study our Pogue patents. After a few days study his opinion has been changed. His conclusion now was "it certainly appears possible to greatly improve gas mileage with this different concept of carburetion".

Can one gallon of gasoline propel a car 100 miles ?

How much power is there in one gallon of gasoline ?

" Were all the energy of one gallon of gasoline to be harnessed for the performance of a single purpose, experiments show that it could be made to provide sufficient heat to raise the temperature of 15,000 gallons of water one degree. Put to work, it could furnish enough force to lift 50,000 tons of coal one foot off the ground raise the Woolworth building five and a half inches. Applied to a small auto-mobile, the power is great enough to elevated a light car 450 miles in the air or to propel it at twenty miles an hour for 450 miles over a level road". Popular Mechanics, July 1924, page 14.

A General Motors executive said this:

" There's enough power in one gallon of gasoline, if you could utilize it all for mere car push, not taking into consideration engine friction and so forth, to drive a small car on a level paved road, at twenty miles an hour, from Chicago to Detroit, That's about three hundred miles." Collier's October 5, 1929. page 10.

Here's another way to look at the same concept.

" Only 10% of the heat of the gasoline was being converted into push for the car ." Science Digest , November 1942, page 6.

This of course means that 90% of the "heat energy" stored in a gallon of gasoline is wasted when it is pumped into the conventional automobile engine.

And:

"Today's auto engine wastes 75% to 80% of the gasoline energy..." Science News Letter, October 2, 1948, page 221.

Or:

"An internal-combustion is essentially an air engine. It pumps air. In less than 50 miles, a 332 cubic-inch Ford engine driving a 2.69 : 1 axle will pump enough air to fill an eight room house. The fuel, of course, goes along in suspension." "... Raw, indigestible fuel slobbers into the cylinders --- into some more than others." "... Slobbering engines are fuel hogs." Popular Science, December 1957, page 79.

What about the cars of the 1970's?

"At its best conventional automobile engine is an inefficient device. In terms of converting the energy content of gasoline into mechanical power, even a top-notch V-8 may throw away three horses out of every four."

CONCLUSION

We must use the reasonable-man approach to this subject.

There is ample written documentation, even from the auto manufactures, that such inventions do in fact exist ....inventions that can greatly improve gasoline mileage ...even to what we might consider the phenomenal.




"THE ELUSIVE HIGH MILEAGE CARBURETOR" By Larry D. Wagner, published by Valley Press, 1984, out of Puyallup Washington 98371. It is probably one of the best of all the books as to understanding catalytic cracking. He made an extensive study and accumulated similar evidence in his research. He claims his complex system got 85 M.P.G. in his 455 c.i. Buick and states most systems on other cars are obtaining an average 250% increase.

He was hassled badly by the E.P.A. who drove him into bankruptcy by their testings with additive laced fuels that always failed the tests.

He gives the histories of different units and relates that while giving a lecture he mentioned that a tank mechanic had told him about W W 2 use of the Pogue system and was interrupted by a ex-tank driver who confirmed the story. Later, at another lecture, another military driver claimed 50 M.P.G. using a secret box carburetor. He states also about Detroit production test super carbs that would slip out to the market. He states his fears of suppression and his hopes for the survival of this technology.




12 hours of Sebring, 1963
Dave MacDonald in the Cobra that he shared with stock-car legend
Glenn "Fireball" Roberts at Sebring in March 1963.
This car DNF'ed due to rear-end problems.

The FISH Carburetor has been around a long time. It has a variable venturi system that enables higher vacuum and an increase of about only 20%. There were many sold and many claims.

Tens of thousands of the various models of the Fish Carburetor were eventually manufactured. The U.S. Post Office was returning all Fish carburetor orders to the senders with "fraudulent" stamped on their order. The Post Office claimed there were no carburetors actually being produced.

The Fish Carburetor Story : Smokey Yunick and Fireball Roberts
1 page history incl. stock car racing, photos and patents on the (John Robert Fish)
Fish Carburetor Corp., Daytona Beach, Florida and Raceway Magazine
Fish Carb Fireball Roberts
Fireball Roberts


more FISH photos and history


mfg. 1981-1996 by Brown Carburetor Co.

"The device can currently be purchased from Fuel Systems of America,
Box 9333, Tacoma, Washington 98401, phone 206-922-2228"

Fish Carb For Sale:  
http://www.racer-net.com/parts021.htm
at The Racers Network

The only answer for each of us to benefit is by publishing the real truth - that these systems are possible and absolutely necessary now! It cannot be patented, therefore no investment can be guarranteed.

This information may be copied, transmitted, or reprinted by anyone so please just help to get this in the public eye that the pollution stops so all of us may benifit to benefit. This can probably only ever succeed by a great joining effort of many, not through the little efforts of back yard mechanics trying to keep it secret, to ensure that they get their piece of the pie.



an "open source" of information on super carburetors and cheaper energy systems
www.pureenergysystems.com/os/FuelEfficiency/Carburetor/index.html

information from-on McBurny's system-method
www.greaterthings.com/News/FreeEnergy/Directory/Carburetors/McBurney/

a book, with a guarantee, about super carburetors
www.himacresearch.com


Tests, demonstrations, even production of many
"Suppressed Inventions" - many if not most, being carburetors
www.handpen.com/meg/free.htm



Are lawn mowers next?
Gallon for gallon, new lawn mower engines contribute 93 times more smog-forming emissions than new cars. It's no wonder that the EPA and the state regulators of California are trying hard to get golf ball-sized catalytic converters into lawn mower and other small engines. However, just like in the 1970s, the lawmakers are being met with a powerful lobby. Briggs & Stratton, the leading manufacturer of small engines, says that these regulations would make for an unsafe product that emits too much heat. Four smaller lawn mower engine manufacturers have refuted this charge. Briggs & Stratton also contends that the overheating could cause brush fires if the mowers are left running and sitting still. California democrats and the EPA think it has more to do with the bottom line. Pending regulations proposed in California could reduce emissions by the equivalent of 800,000 cars per day. [Barringer, Felicity; "A Greener Way to Cut the Grass Runs Afoul of a Powerful Lobby. New York Times"]





Possible Super "Carburetors" Tomorrow

Every car has a Catalytic Converter. It works by breaking down the large gas molecules that were not burned in your engine and turns them into smaller particles that can be burned in your tailpipe before being released into the air*, so less exhaust hits the environment. Which, as McBurney explains, is what the better super carb's did.
And, by the way, the smaller the molecule the greater the octane rating. Natural gas has an octane rating of about 120.

Today, a company in Fort Worth, Texas, is developing it again and is calling it a Pre-Ignition Catalytic Converter or a PICC, "using a magnetic and electrical reaction to break down the fuel molecules". They ran a fuel injected 318 V-8 Chrysler engine on a brand new state of the art dynamometer (the same testing equipment that Detroit uses) at 3,000 rpms under a 50% load for an hour. This test condition approximated an 8 cylinder van with a 318 engine, traveling up a 30 degree incline for one hour, at 65 miles per hour. Before the PICC modification, the engine got around 22 mpg.

The researchers then switched the fuel injection process to the PICC Modification and ran the engine under the exact same conditions for another hour and achieved almost 200 mpg! When they shut off the engine, the researchers reported that it coasted on the vapor for another two minutes!

They say they are still in development with it but, they have been announcing it with full page ads in Popular Science for the past 2 months. (Jan. 12th and Feb. 9th --Feb. and March 2008 issues)

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*How Catalytic Converters Reduce Pollution

The oxidation catalyst is the second stage of the catalytic converter. It reduces the unburned hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide by burning (oxidizing) them over a platinum and palladium catalyst. This catalyst aids the reaction of the CO and hydrocarbons with the remaining oxygen in the exhaust gas.








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